tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post2458768465420087951..comments2023-10-28T08:10:09.173-05:00Comments on Alasandra's Homeschool Blog: Obama Supports HomeschoolingAlastriona, The Cats and Dogs http://www.blogger.com/profile/13233710830920626326noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-38492050200224125022008-11-06T16:48:00.000-06:002008-11-06T16:48:00.000-06:00Oh, silly me, you're right of course Alasandra. No...Oh, silly me, you're right of course Alasandra. No fertility labs. No contraception. Also no choosing not to have sex in the first place, for the woman at least, considering that those "blessings" are god's plan for her purpose on the earth so who is she to question what the men say god told them she must submit to . . .all this is a lot to sell if you discredit science first . . .JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-62829018570228068602008-11-06T16:10:00.000-06:002008-11-06T16:10:00.000-06:00IF they ever gain control fertility labs will prob...IF they ever gain control fertility labs will probably be done away with as it is my understanding they object to women getting pregnant by any means other then the 'normal' way.Alastriona, The Cats and Dogs https://www.blogger.com/profile/13233710830920626326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-42074597186124276522008-11-06T16:07:00.000-06:002008-11-06T16:07:00.000-06:00You brought up a good point about a tubal pregnanc...You brought up a good point about a tubal pregnancy JJ.<BR/><BR/>Every time the nuts start talking about the unborn I can't help but think about the UNDEAD http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339840/<BR/><BR/>And it's really weird they are so hellbent on giving the UNBORN rights but they object to the rights of children. Serious dissonance there.Alastriona, The Cats and Dogs https://www.blogger.com/profile/13233710830920626326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-43291268648721261732008-11-06T15:22:00.000-06:002008-11-06T15:22:00.000-06:00I read something today about the nurse who origina...I read something today about the nurse who originally made the “infanticide” charge against Obama, even though the Republican sponsor of the Illinois bill in question said himself that’s not what Obama was advocating by opposing his bill. <BR/><BR/>She’s totally off the deep end now, talking about how sinful it is for women even to use contraceptives or choose sterilization at any point in their own lives, and so public policy must force them not to sin by forcing babies upon them, as “blessings.”<BR/><BR/>There is no way to reconcile with that. Any more than 21st century America can reconcile ourselves to the rule of the Taliban or Iranian ayatollahs.<BR/><BR/>When I went back later and Googled for the source, it was World Net Daily, of course. I choose not to link it but her name is Jill Stanek.JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-18397594474627546962008-11-06T14:26:00.000-06:002008-11-06T14:26:00.000-06:00Look at the extreme emotional valence packed into ...Look at the extreme emotional valence packed into this one short post supposedly about "protecting innocent life": violence, rape, severely beat, slaughtered.<BR/><BR/>Start from there and reason is going nowhere.<BR/><BR/>For example, education doesn't just go away as a state obligation to all children. So what happens if enough voters are moved by such emotional words to translate their beliefs into binding secular legal definitions, such as the one voted on this week in (was in Colorado?) -- then you have to think about everything that applies to an American child, e.g. custody battles in which the father argues the mom is a smoker, say, so the embryo must be extracted and reimplanted in some other woman for its protection, etc. (likely a government employee we taxpayers pay under CPS?)<BR/><BR/>Eggs that implant on fallopian tubes will be a death sentence not just for the legal "child" but for the mom too.<BR/><BR/>And it's still an education issue btw. If a fertilized human egg in or out of utero (will fertility lab eggs count too?) is ruled to be exactly the same as a child, then it has full equal rights which would include a free and appropriate special needs education. That will be an interesting school program . . .JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-57661752123000506482008-11-03T10:48:00.000-06:002008-11-03T10:48:00.000-06:00Alasandra said:"I sincerely doubt Obama has any pl...Alasandra said:<BR/>"I sincerely doubt Obama has any plans to take away our first amendment rights. On the other hand Bush with the Patriot Act seems to be headed in that direction and I don't see any indication that McCain wouldn't follow in the same path."<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20081031.html" REL="nofollow">John Dean has a new research-backed essay at FindLaw that helps explain why this is so</A>. Important to national politics and government, but also it illuminates so many other issues we homeschool moms care about and debate online, like school choice, child abuse, bullying, book censorship, family privacy, etc.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-is-true-story/" REL="nofollow">I blogged about this essay today and compared it to a classic horror movie, Invasion of the Body-Snatchers</A>.JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-54658530875064614152008-11-03T10:38:00.000-06:002008-11-03T10:38:00.000-06:00Re: imperfections in the ConsitutionA Newsweek jou...Re: imperfections in the Consitution<BR/><BR/>A Newsweek journalist on cable news just pointed our we should remember in this historic election that "our first 16 presidents could have owned Barack Obama as property."JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-28166499061193138062008-11-02T10:43:00.000-06:002008-11-02T10:43:00.000-06:00Lack of modern plumbing would be a real downer to ...Lack of modern plumbing would be a real downer to living in Camelot.Alastriona, The Cats and Dogs https://www.blogger.com/profile/13233710830920626326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-44621092582079289672008-11-02T06:59:00.000-06:002008-11-02T06:59:00.000-06:00"When we insist on creating heroes out of the Foun..."When we insist on creating heroes out of the Founding Fathers we dishonor the memory of the men they really were".<BR/><BR/>*****<BR/><BR/>What a smart guy you've got there! <BR/><BR/>This is one reason so many people enjoyed the HBO series on John Adams -- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472027/ -- it showed him warts and all. <BR/><BR/>Some of the shine is taken off when we know more, of course. I can't look at any movie set in a castle quite the same way since I saw something about their bathroom facilities -- or lack thereof. :)<BR/><BR/>NanceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-19781444016199142712008-11-01T20:37:00.000-05:002008-11-01T20:37:00.000-05:00It's an honor and a privilege to "meet" another Th...It's an honor and a privilege to "meet" another Thinking Homeschool Parent, Erin. The other kind have been pretty stressful as the stridency of their Obama smears rachet up and up and up in these last days before they have to face change we can believe in. <BR/><BR/>Alasandra knows a whole bunch of us here and there; visit any of us and comment when you feel so moved. :)JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-13036697810252807562008-11-01T18:15:00.000-05:002008-11-01T18:15:00.000-05:00Very well said Erin.I have often thought that if t...Very well said Erin.<BR/><BR/>I have often thought that if those who are so concerned with the unborn would devote the same time, money and care to those already born the world would be a better place.<BR/><BR/>I will be relived when Tuesday is over the smear tactics and plain meanness this campaign season has been very depressing.Alastriona, The Cats and Dogs https://www.blogger.com/profile/13233710830920626326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-10581536992375261592008-11-01T17:52:00.000-05:002008-11-01T17:52:00.000-05:00I've never posted on a homeschool blog before, but...I've never posted on a homeschool blog before, but I have to say that as a homeschooling mom of three, I hope that my children will learn to be educated enough to read the actual constitution, Marx, Rouseau, and compare and contrast ideas about government and make a choice of what they think is best - it kills me to see people throwing around words like socialism - sounds like McCarthyism all over - and although I beleive in a parents right to be as involved in their children's education as they wish - I am a practicing pediatrician with 15 years experience - and I DON'T beleive that all parents can or will make the right choices for their children, whether about education, or otherwise...that's why we have a government - to ensure the rights of those unable to do so themselves (oh, and I like roads, etc...)maybe that makes me a "socialist" - <BR/><BR/>I am not worried about my right to homeschool my children. I am confident that they are doing well, meeting the state's requirements, learning and demonstrating that homeschoolers can be mature, social, educated and contributing members of their community and society. And I am prettey sure that any one elected president has much bigger fish to fry, then chasing after a small group of families whose children generally do very well, compared to public school students. Would any of you wish to leave children without parents who can give as much as we choose to to bad schools and no health care? Hard to justify that, especially if you align yourself with the pro-life movement (ie protecting innocent children...)<BR/>Erin in OregonAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11902773610346084441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-6648699553326793632008-10-31T18:20:00.000-05:002008-10-31T18:20:00.000-05:00You know it's ironic the Fundamentalist Homeschool...You know it's ironic the Fundamentalist Homeschoolers are up in arms with the idea the GOVERNMENT MIGHT TELL THEM HOW TO EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN, but these same people have no problem with using the GOVERNMENT TO FORCE WOMEN TO HAVE CHILDREN THEY DO NOT WANT.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion the government has no business being involved with a woman's decision to have a child or a parents decision on how to educate their child.Alastriona, The Cats and Dogs https://www.blogger.com/profile/13233710830920626326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-68003889627614701452008-10-31T18:15:00.000-05:002008-10-31T18:15:00.000-05:00I find it sad that the McCain and Baldwin supporte...I find it sad that the McCain and Baldwin supporters can't find anything good to say about their candidate so they have to stoop to attacking Obama.<BR/><BR/>I sincerely doubt Obama has any plans to take away our first amendment rights. On the other hand Bush with the Patriot Act seems to be headed in that direction and I don't see any indication that McCain wouldn't follow in the same path.Alastriona, The Cats and Dogs https://www.blogger.com/profile/13233710830920626326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-76755554481509833942008-10-31T17:09:00.000-05:002008-10-31T17:09:00.000-05:00Go ahead and endanger all our home education freed...Go ahead and endanger all our home education freedoms with that kind of ignorant nonsense, but expect to be called out on it from now on -- no more silence from the Thinking Parents who also homeschool and love America (and homeschooling) too..JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-69713185529389341992008-10-31T16:47:00.000-05:002008-10-31T16:47:00.000-05:00Actually, until Obama does away with our First Amm...Actually, until Obama does away with our First Ammendment rights I will make comparisons as I see them and blog about them and tell them to anyone I am talking to. That is my right, you don't have to like it. By the way, some of our public school friends have made the same comparison!momma24https://www.blogger.com/profile/15022999692699054088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-29406724586583188322008-10-31T15:43:00.000-05:002008-10-31T15:43:00.000-05:00Hi Alasandra, what a smart son you have! :)Hi Alasandra, what a smart son you have! :)JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-83742189240523481402008-10-31T15:42:00.000-05:002008-10-31T15:42:00.000-05:00Here's a constitutional interpretation for ya, you...Here's a constitutional interpretation for ya, you betcha! Not a reassuring presidential posture in terms of whether she'd defend and protect my rights and yours under the constitution, unless they happen to coincide with what SHE wants next.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/31/palin/index.html" REL="nofollow">Salon: Sarah Palin Speaks on the First Amendment</A>JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-59087303020784410152008-10-31T15:36:00.000-05:002008-10-31T15:36:00.000-05:00My youngest son did an interesting paper on the he...My youngest son did an interesting paper on the heroification of George Washington for his college class. <BR/><BR/>And I think he said something very profound (course I am a tad prejudice since he is my son). He said "When we insist on creating heroes out of the Founding Fathers we dishonor the memory of the men they really were".<BR/><BR/>Our Founding Fathers were human, they made mistakes just like everyone. And of course they were men of their times. Times have changed, I like to think for the better.Alastriona, The Cats and Dogs https://www.blogger.com/profile/13233710830920626326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-8563921163306804652008-10-31T15:15:00.000-05:002008-10-31T15:15:00.000-05:00Your curriculum doesn't mention even one thing tha...<I>Your curriculum doesn't mention even one thing that we would do differently today if we were writing the Constitution? Not one thing?</I><BR/><BR/>Nance,<BR/><BR/>Of course not! The Founders were perfect, after all. And founded a perfect Christian nation. Huh? What's that? Separation of Church and State? Never mind.Dee Paolinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00451533175943518650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-42582231041276034462008-10-31T14:15:00.000-05:002008-10-31T14:15:00.000-05:00LOL - everybody the original constitution disenfra...LOL - everybody the original constitution disenfranchised (women and anyone with African blood, for example) should be able to answer that one without a curriculum . . .JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-45348842194398996882008-10-31T13:52:00.000-05:002008-10-31T13:52:00.000-05:00He said himself that the founding fathers did some...He said himself that the founding fathers did some things wrong. Excuse me? <BR/><BR/>*******<BR/><BR/>Your curriculum doesn't mention even one thing that we would do differently today if we were writing the Constitution? Not one thing? <BR/><BR/>NanceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-40793786583255216082008-10-31T12:44:00.000-05:002008-10-31T12:44:00.000-05:00Obama is black, and it's black helicopters that wi...Obama is black, and it's black helicopters that will be coming to whisk Sprittbee off to the UN re-education camps on Nov 5.<BR/><BR/>Coincidence?CODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16207776957256101693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-59531105871023522742008-10-31T12:21:00.000-05:002008-10-31T12:21:00.000-05:00Oh -- and please, leaving aside the religious crea...Oh -- and please, leaving aside the religious creationism anti-science stuff and the wacko stuff about how public education if not the whole income tax system is unconstitutional, here's something simple you can do if you're seriously committed to securing the blessings of liberty for home education. <BR/><BR/>Spread the word to all your friends and fellow homeschool parents and especially home education bloggers, to never, ever make some Hitler-Nazi comparison AGAIN! About anything or anyone! Think it if you want but never ever write or even say it -- unless you make sure no one suspects you homeschool!JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14114569.post-62223449853531464682008-10-31T12:11:00.000-05:002008-10-31T12:11:00.000-05:00It's what we ourselves do, not what a president do...It's what we ourselves do, not what a president does, that will determine our home education freedoms.<BR/><BR/>Every time we engage our children in community contributions without government requiring it, every time we exercise good citizenship voluntarily and exercise obviously well-developed reasoning and problem-solving (applied for good instead of evil!) and yes, every time we join rather than fight, collaborate rather than control, approach rather than appall, help rather than horrify our political opposites, etc. we help ourselves and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our (homeschooling) posterity.<BR/><BR/>And of course every time we get up a blithering mob of fools to yelp and yawp like the "idiot wind" referred to in the Washington Post today, we do our homeschooling freedoms harm.<BR/><BR/>That's just reality.<BR/><BR/>We can learn it and live it, or perish on the pyre of our own self-righteousness imo. Doesn't matter 's president, they won't be able to protect home education from a fed-up public sick enough of trying to explain why our divisive separatism isn't worth it to them any more.JJ Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03493570025415687789noreply@blogger.com